It's this particular question that boiled my blood today. It's from Matt Cutts' personal blog mattcutts.com/blog <-- (This is a link omission by the way. See how it's plain text but I'm treating it like a link.. this way it doesn't drain rank)Matt is answering a question about the recent Google algorithm change (read about that on onecoolsite if you haven't yet) concerning nofollow links.
Doesn’t (the recent change) encourage me to link out less? Should I turn off comments on my blog?
Matts Answer: I wouldn’t recommend closing comments in an attempt to “hoard” your PageRank. In the same way that Google trusts sites less when they link to spammy sites or bad neighborhoods, parts of our system encourage links to good sites.
from MattCutts.com/blog
The no-nonsense answer: Yes! Turn off the comments on your blog and you will see an improvement in the SERPs, moreso now that we can't nofollow but this is how it's always been.. even though it makes your blog suck.
No one said anything about 'hoarding' rank, Mr. Cutts - this guy is simply asking if his comments are going to suck pagerank out of his site since he can no longer label them 'nofollow' to redistribute juice. The answer to that is yes.
"parts of our system encourage links to good sites." This has nothing to do with anything. If you are linking to authoritive sites, it shouldn't be in the comment section. Most of the comment backlinks come from other bloggers..
Are these webmasters from the authoritive sites really commenting on anyones blog?? No.
To a well-linked internet - this recent algorithm change is practically assault with a deadly weapon. If there is a bonus for non-reciprocated outlinks to authoritive sites like Cutts suggests above I assure you it's a small one.. small enough for me not to have ever noticed in my time as an optimizer.
Either way, the whole Web 2.0 movement is about the users controlling the content. What if there is some uber-great content that I want to link to.. but it's not on an authoritive site? If we have everyone linking to the 5 top sites for their niche, the SERPs are just going to get regimented and stagnant, with the authoritive sites staying on top and the new comers somewhere around the 15th or 16th page. Sure, it's less work for Google to administer and remove spam, but it comprimises freshness for the end user and sticks a middle finger up at webmasters everywhere.
But Codesucker, you shouldn't even be thinking about SEO.. just write good content.
Nope. I'm one of those so called SEOs gaming the system and guess what - The brains behind every single one of those authoritive sites has someone like the dog barking exactly how to optimize at them.Guess what I'm telling clients?
Link out less.They pay dogs good money(not really) for consultation.. I need to back up every claim I make with authoritive resources - you want me to tell real people to link to 'good' sites for a google bonus of some sort? Leave blog comments on and hope for commenters from 'good' sites? I can't back that up at all - In fact it's downright silly from where I stand, there is no evidence to support such dangerous nonsense.
Since hearing about the change I am treating every outlink as a Google penalty.







So "we are NOT amused, eh?" lol :D
ReplyDeleteAs usual your post is informative and understandble, which of course, sets it apart from some of the dense stuff I try to shine a light into and can't even penetrate.
Obvisouly, I won't be touching my links. I guess we'll be linking to that 1/2 dozen blessed "authoritative" sites at the top of the SERPs to make the job easier for Google ... SIGH
Well said, I know where Matt's coming from but he's simply using another SEO tactic to dodge answering a question on another tactic.
ReplyDeleteI'm keeping my comments no follow, this change has been in place a year and to be honest I haven't noticed any penalties for having no follow comments.
I can't imagine that they should ding anyone for having nofollow in their website, as most webmasters have spent so long believe that is a good thing to have. Otherwise, many people are going to have to go out and re-code a lot of their sites.
ReplyDeleteI would think that having paginated comments would take away the issue of having a lot of outbound links on one page.
~ Kristi
You just shed a light of enlightment about changing my current blogging practice
ReplyDeleteI got so many spamming comments on my blogs that this is not funny at all.
This is getting sick to hear from Matt saying that.
I am deleting all my outbound links on my link page now. Drop dead these authoritive sites
I should not give this away, but there is not only link juice flowing out from you to a high auth site, but it shall flow back as well.
ReplyDeleteIn other words it is not a one way street. When you link to spam the stink flows back to your blog, also auth can flow back too.
Guilt by assoc!
I just wonder: this change has been implemented since over 1 year as I read over WebProNews article and SEOmoz so why did Google wait for a whole year to declare it?
ReplyDeleteWell I'm one of those so called SEOs gaming the system and guess what - The brains behind every single one of those authoritative sites has someone like the dog barking exactly how to optimize at them.
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I'm confused. Is this what you're saying...
ReplyDeleteYes, comments create outbound links, which is bad. However, you should still keep them because they make your site better.
If that's your position, then I totally understand. The outbound links may be bad, but if you cut out comments, you are negating the benefit of a blog. Social media marketing works because it allows you to build relationships with your target audience and fellow industry people that can enhance your efforts. If you don't allow your readers to respond to you, it's not social media. It's outbound marketing - the traditional kind of marketing that speaks AT your target audience, not with them.
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